“I was going to have a few comments on the other Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards, but it turns out you have to go into rehab if you use the word ‘faggot,’ so I — so kind of an impasse, can’t really talk about Edwards." Ann Coulter at the Conservative Political Action Conference on March 2, 2007.
But she did apologize the following day.
“I would never insult gays by suggesting that they are like John Edwards. That would be mean.” Ann Coulter next day.
Coulter's coup de grace was after she finished her nasty slur, she personally endorsed Mitt Romeny by saying she would vote for him. A few days later when Jon Edwards' campaign manager Democrat David Bonior -- a veteran and 26 year member of the House of Representatives -- responded to Coulter's bigotry with a fundraising letter seeking "Coulter Cash", the crazy right-wing bitch responded on her website:
"It's always good to divert Bonior from his principal pastime which is fronting for Arab terrorists."
Is there anyone worse than Ann Coulter? Yes there is!
Mike Weiner now goes by the name Michael Savage, he ranks third behind Limbaugh and Hannity in radio syndication and makes both of those Right-wing talk show hosts seem members of the NAACP. Savage is the premier fascist, racist, bigot, homophobe, xenophobe and another crazyass Jewish Neocon who all large burning Menorah shoved up their butts. This guy is David Duke on steroids. In 2003, to the loud complaint of NBC's news anchor Tom Brokaw, MSNBC hired The Weiner for an evening television spot. After only a few months he told a caller, "You should only get AIDS and die! You sodomite!" Though standard fair for Conservative Radio, it did not play well on television and he was fired the following day. More recently (last week), he soared and fell once again. After being signed with Creative Artists Agency for syndication to reach every toothless meth addict living in the bayous and hollars of Alabama, he was fired a few days later after saying of Melissa Etheridge, "I don't like a woman married to a woman. It makes me want to puke. I want to vomit when I hear it. I think it's child abuse."
Ann Coulter, who lives next to her ugly gay man best "friend" Matt Drudge in South Beach should invite The Weiner down to create THE ménage à trois made in Hell.
What a conundrum for the aptly named
Weiner THAT would be!
If he turned her down, he'd be added to
"the list" of Outstanding Americans Who
Are Gay" according to Coulter, to whom
sensible people have obviously "just said NO" to for a very long time.
Bill Maher had her on his show for years calling her his good friend. The only reason I can think for that is he was porking her. She is easy, so she says! :)
Who wrote this? While I can certainly appreciate a good Neo-con bashing - nobody makes my blood boil like the likes of Anne Coulter and Michael "the weiner" Savage, that's politics - you enter the arena of politics, you enter the arena of public scrutiny. However, there is absolutely NO call for the fallacious and reductive redering of rural mountain folk made in this blog.
"More recently (last week), he soared and fell once again.After being signed with Creative Artists Agency for
syndication to reach every toothless meth addict living in the bayous and hollars of Alabama..." !!!
Please someone tell me that you also offended by this? People of the LGBT community don't expect to be reduced and we should respect that expectation when it comes to the unfair, Orientalization (please read Said 1979) in which we cast our rural commrades. There is no call for automatically assuming that rural folk are A) backward, B) share the politics of the facist right and C) become reducible to toothless meth addicts - as if the drug problems in the rural south do not stem from the very formations of capitalism and imposed socio-cultural subversions that subject them to the poverty in which they find themselves. I for one am surely offended by this remark, and I would hope that it would be rescinded and apologized for.
I study the rural folk of Appalachia and their sexual minorities - believe me they are often cast in an unfair and beguiling light which it is up to us to hault. I'm sorry but there is no room for this type of slander through foundless stereotypes that keep rural folk in the boxes we've made for them. We CANNOT tolerate this type of language in a civil society. If you're not offended you should be! Our rural brothers and sisters are not the punchline to some mean-spirited joke, even if, and perhaps especially because the joke is about a mean-spirited facist regime!
Be angry sure, but we can no longer tolerate this type of bigotry active, latent or otherwise on any vector.
Kentucky hey...
My advice for you is to put down that shine, remove the confederate flag from the side of your trailer and go see a dentist.
------
Note: This is THE example of how crazy right-wing bitches and bastards (mostly from the Confederate States like Kentucky) have stolen this country over the past generation.
The GOP spin machine takes ONE EXAMPLE of a humorless POLITICALLY CORRECT whinney liberal like this to paint all liberals and Democrats with the same brush. It plays right into their hands. I am having none of it.
I think you missed my point entirely. And there is no confederate flag flying anywhere near me. I take exception to your insult of me - how dare you tell me that I take down anything and go see a dentist. I am from suburban Ohio. I am an academic. I study marginality. I am critical of cosmopolites, such as yourself, who spew plurality (of which I am an avid advocate) out of one side of your mouth and out of the other side advocate hate for a group of people that I would imagine you are completely ignorant.
The problem with your argument is that you say it is NOT ok for the radical right regime to use words like 'faggot' when they reference PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF. I am indeed a homosexual man. But it IS ok for YOU, as a social and political commentator (of the so-called Left) to reference a entire range of people - who have nothing to do with your argument, about which I'm sure you know nothing, render them agency-less and attack them without research, without care, and with indeed the same hate that Ann Coulter places on us when she uses the term 'faggot', to make the same kind of callus and neligent joke.
Indeed sir, you may think me one of those extremist, whiny (again how dare you), complaining, apologist, liberal (which I again take exception to, but it seems to engage you on an intellectual level is moot) that feed the facist machine. But I challenge you, precisely because you are speaking the site of ignorance and carelessness of the very same people you with to undermine. Poor strategy my frient, poor, poor strategy. The world only changes because we want it to - work with the system you get nothing, work against the system you get revolution!
You may have none of it, that is perrogotive, that's not what I am critiquing here - but by having none of it you must be aware of what's at stake. One last exception I take, I have a very good sense of humor, and it's healthy and quite intact - I just CHOOSE not to use without forethought and against an entire group of people that don't deserve it.
You just dont get it pal...
YOU and what you did here is exactly why the right has ascended.
You can poo poo Rush and Hannity and O'reilly but they can make or break elections. 50 million listeners a week between them. I HAVE 50 A DAY!
And what is THE CENTRAL issue of all of them? The one they spend 3/4 of their shows upon? Generating a visceral hatred of LIBERALS for just what you have done here. Politically Correct, HUMORLESS, elitist, snotnosed finger shaking telling people where to stand and what to say... AND THEY KNOW IT WORKS so well that we have had raving lunatics running this country now for a generation.
Their message resonates through every trailer, every swamp and hollar through Kentucky. Politically, YOU are the problem not the solution.
You apparently are NOT getting it either. And I'd like to know how I come off as elitist for coming to the defense of a disadvantaged and marginalized group of people, and yet you don't get to be elitist by summarily erasing them from political advocacy and merit through an unthoughtful and uncritical remark? I certainly don't disregard my privilige as the petty bourgeois, but at least I am using my power to bring a critical awareness to marginal peoples.
If I get you correctly, you think that it is indeed ok to make fun of an entire social class so long as they fit the punchline of your meanspirited joke regardless of how untrue it is, how misleading it is, and how it further alienates them from the politics which you advocate?
So, rather than reaching out to these "backward yokels" which you so misguidingly cast and discriminately dismiss them as - oh wait, I'm sorry; they're all toothless meth adicts! - they should just be written off as a lost cause? Regardless of the fact that you have no clue as to how their politics or social realities are made. And you can NOT make sweeping claims that all rural folk align with the fascist right. It is just simply not true. Do these problems exist there? Yes. But they exist there for a reason, and to be responsible, we have to interrogate the reasons before writing them off. And perhaps a better strategy than poking fun at them would be to show them how the right fascist regime has produced their disadvantages. Let's turn a 'liability' (which you seem hellbent on maintaining) into an asset.
We are supposed to be the party of The People, exactly because we don't marginalize, we don't reduce, we don't dismiss - or at least that's what we're supposed to be doing.
If I am POLITICALLY the problem, then we have some serious problems. I don't see how you can advocate using the exact same tactics that Ann Coulter uses makes you politcally progressive - where I can only represent some whack-job frige with no political legitimacy (or indeed agency, which this implies).
I don't think that I'm the one that needs to reevaluate my politics and political positions. And if you think I am the problem, you're setting us for failure.
cheers
#3.1.1.1
Mathias Detmore
on
2007-03-09 11:34
(Reply)
Though I can understand your anger at the creeps and blowhards who claim to represent the right in America, I don't understand your attitude towards the south.
You are, I assume, a liberal steeped in the tradition of respect for differences in race, creed, and ethnicity (as am I). Yet you are willing to set that aside for this one group of people.
How does that make you different from someone who hates all Moslems, or African-Americans, or Jews? After all, you are exhibiting exactly the same sort of blanket hatred and stereotyping.
Because I used humor to describe all the racist, homo hating, talibanie toothless morons with 3rd grade ejucations who vote about 90% RIGHT WING CONSERVATIVE in every election since 1980, I am a racist and a bigot and bla bla bla... The same EXACT argument used by Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity, and Coulter.
Here is a project for you, find a BLUE STATE - RED STATE graphic of any individual state you wish. Doesnt even have to be from your Confederacy.
Geographically you will see that about 95% of every state is fire engine RED. The only pockets of BLUE you will see are in close to major cities, some light blue in the surrounding burbs and perhaps a BLUE dot here and there which are Indian Reservations.
What I say here has no impact on VOTES.
If your message here were got a hold of by Limbaugh, and pushed through the entire conservative Media, it would result in MILLIONS more toothless liberal hating snake handling bigots coming out to vote for Newt!
Newt! Is running THIRD. He is a human piece of shit. Actually insane, who do you thing the 20% of Americans kissing his ass are?
You are getting NOWHERE with me with your politically correct bullshit. It has been the CENTRAL vote gathering issue of the Right for a generation.
Why do you think these boobs vote against their own self interest every November now for 37 years?
This Democratic congress was elected by CITIES.
Humor? Undoubtedly--but the joke's on you, for you paint yourself as someone as bigoted and small-minded as the people you attack.
"My" Confederacy? Well, I have ancestors who fought for the south, but others who fought for the north. Unlike you, I am not willing to hate either side.
Think about geography for a moment: population density--ever heard of that? If you redid your map to show equivalences in population, you would find that the blue states aren't "pockets," but are equal to the red states.
The kind of hatred you express makes you no political ally of mine--though I am a leftist and have been for fifty years. (Not only that, but I live half time in one of the bluest of blue locations, New York City).
If people with attitudes like yours ever get into power, we'll have as bad a leadership as we have now. Not worse, but only because it couldn't get worse.
Hatred like that coming from your words should have no place in America. Our great national tragedy is that it has.
I just hope to hell you humorless, anal retentive, politically correct little nitwits wake up.
One last example.
THEY take your anal retentive humorless politically correct crap and change the nature of politics with it.
Heres the EXAMPLE.
Femenazi. They took that word describing Molly Yard doing just the kind of pc crap you are doing and succeeded so well, they got it into the dictionaries!
Wake up you little nobs, the whole political swing to the Right was because of just this very thing you are doing.
Mike Weiner now goes by the name Michael Savage, he ranks third behind Limbaugh and Hannity in radio syndication and makes both of those Right-wing talk show hosts seem members of the NAACP. Savage is the premier fascist, racist, bigot, homophobe, xenophobe and another crazyass Jewish Neocon who all large burning Menorah shoved up their butts. This guy is David Duke on steroids. In 2003, to the loud complaint of NBC's news anchor Tom Brokaw, MSNBC hired The Weiner for an evening television spot. After only a few months he told a caller, "You should only get AIDS and die! You sodomite!" Though standard fair for Conservative Radio, it did not play well on television and he was fired the following day. More recently (last week), he soared and fell once again. After being signed with Creative Artists Agency for syndication to reach every toothless meth addict living in the bayous and hollars of Alabama, he was fired a few days later after saying of Melissa Etheridge, "I don't like a woman married to a woman. It makes me want to puke. I want to vomit when I hear it. I think it's child abuse."
Weiner THAT would be!
If he turned her down, he'd be added to
"the list" of Outstanding Americans Who
Are Gay" according to Coulter, to whom
sensible people have obviously "just said NO" to for a very long time.
"More recently (last week), he soared and fell once again.After being signed with Creative Artists Agency for
syndication to reach every toothless meth addict living in the bayous and hollars of Alabama..." !!!
Please someone tell me that you also offended by this? People of the LGBT community don't expect to be reduced and we should respect that expectation when it comes to the unfair, Orientalization (please read Said 1979) in which we cast our rural commrades. There is no call for automatically assuming that rural folk are A) backward, B) share the politics of the facist right and C) become reducible to toothless meth addicts - as if the drug problems in the rural south do not stem from the very formations of capitalism and imposed socio-cultural subversions that subject them to the poverty in which they find themselves. I for one am surely offended by this remark, and I would hope that it would be rescinded and apologized for.
I study the rural folk of Appalachia and their sexual minorities - believe me they are often cast in an unfair and beguiling light which it is up to us to hault. I'm sorry but there is no room for this type of slander through foundless stereotypes that keep rural folk in the boxes we've made for them. We CANNOT tolerate this type of language in a civil society. If you're not offended you should be! Our rural brothers and sisters are not the punchline to some mean-spirited joke, even if, and perhaps especially because the joke is about a mean-spirited facist regime!
Be angry sure, but we can no longer tolerate this type of bigotry active, latent or otherwise on any vector.
-Mathias Detamore
University of Kentucky
My advice for you is to put down that shine, remove the confederate flag from the side of your trailer and go see a dentist.
------
Note: This is THE example of how crazy right-wing bitches and bastards (mostly from the Confederate States like Kentucky) have stolen this country over the past generation.
The GOP spin machine takes ONE EXAMPLE of a humorless POLITICALLY CORRECT whinney liberal like this to paint all liberals and Democrats with the same brush. It plays right into their hands. I am having none of it.
Love,
RJ
I think you missed my point entirely. And there is no confederate flag flying anywhere near me. I take exception to your insult of me - how dare you tell me that I take down anything and go see a dentist. I am from suburban Ohio. I am an academic. I study marginality. I am critical of cosmopolites, such as yourself, who spew plurality (of which I am an avid advocate) out of one side of your mouth and out of the other side advocate hate for a group of people that I would imagine you are completely ignorant.
The problem with your argument is that you say it is NOT ok for the radical right regime to use words like 'faggot' when they reference PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF. I am indeed a homosexual man. But it IS ok for YOU, as a social and political commentator (of the so-called Left) to reference a entire range of people - who have nothing to do with your argument, about which I'm sure you know nothing, render them agency-less and attack them without research, without care, and with indeed the same hate that Ann Coulter places on us when she uses the term 'faggot', to make the same kind of callus and neligent joke.
Indeed sir, you may think me one of those extremist, whiny (again how dare you), complaining, apologist, liberal (which I again take exception to, but it seems to engage you on an intellectual level is moot) that feed the facist machine. But I challenge you, precisely because you are speaking the site of ignorance and carelessness of the very same people you with to undermine. Poor strategy my frient, poor, poor strategy. The world only changes because we want it to - work with the system you get nothing, work against the system you get revolution!
You may have none of it, that is perrogotive, that's not what I am critiquing here - but by having none of it you must be aware of what's at stake. One last exception I take, I have a very good sense of humor, and it's healthy and quite intact - I just CHOOSE not to use without forethought and against an entire group of people that don't deserve it.
YOU and what you did here is exactly why the right has ascended.
You can poo poo Rush and Hannity and O'reilly but they can make or break elections. 50 million listeners a week between them. I HAVE 50 A DAY!
And what is THE CENTRAL issue of all of them? The one they spend 3/4 of their shows upon? Generating a visceral hatred of LIBERALS for just what you have done here. Politically Correct, HUMORLESS, elitist, snotnosed finger shaking telling people where to stand and what to say... AND THEY KNOW IT WORKS so well that we have had raving lunatics running this country now for a generation.
Their message resonates through every trailer, every swamp and hollar through Kentucky. Politically, YOU are the problem not the solution.
Love
RJ
If I get you correctly, you think that it is indeed ok to make fun of an entire social class so long as they fit the punchline of your meanspirited joke regardless of how untrue it is, how misleading it is, and how it further alienates them from the politics which you advocate?
So, rather than reaching out to these "backward yokels" which you so misguidingly cast and discriminately dismiss them as - oh wait, I'm sorry; they're all toothless meth adicts! - they should just be written off as a lost cause? Regardless of the fact that you have no clue as to how their politics or social realities are made. And you can NOT make sweeping claims that all rural folk align with the fascist right. It is just simply not true. Do these problems exist there? Yes. But they exist there for a reason, and to be responsible, we have to interrogate the reasons before writing them off. And perhaps a better strategy than poking fun at them would be to show them how the right fascist regime has produced their disadvantages. Let's turn a 'liability' (which you seem hellbent on maintaining) into an asset.
We are supposed to be the party of The People, exactly because we don't marginalize, we don't reduce, we don't dismiss - or at least that's what we're supposed to be doing.
If I am POLITICALLY the problem, then we have some serious problems. I don't see how you can advocate using the exact same tactics that Ann Coulter uses makes you politcally progressive - where I can only represent some whack-job frige with no political legitimacy (or indeed agency, which this implies).
I don't think that I'm the one that needs to reevaluate my politics and political positions. And if you think I am the problem, you're setting us for failure.
cheers
You are, I assume, a liberal steeped in the tradition of respect for differences in race, creed, and ethnicity (as am I). Yet you are willing to set that aside for this one group of people.
How does that make you different from someone who hates all Moslems, or African-Americans, or Jews? After all, you are exhibiting exactly the same sort of blanket hatred and stereotyping.
Here is a project for you, find a BLUE STATE - RED STATE graphic of any individual state you wish. Doesnt even have to be from your Confederacy.
Geographically you will see that about 95% of every state is fire engine RED. The only pockets of BLUE you will see are in close to major cities, some light blue in the surrounding burbs and perhaps a BLUE dot here and there which are Indian Reservations.
What I say here has no impact on VOTES.
If your message here were got a hold of by Limbaugh, and pushed through the entire conservative Media, it would result in MILLIONS more toothless liberal hating snake handling bigots coming out to vote for Newt!
Newt! Is running THIRD. He is a human piece of shit. Actually insane, who do you thing the 20% of Americans kissing his ass are?
You are getting NOWHERE with me with your politically correct bullshit. It has been the CENTRAL vote gathering issue of the Right for a generation.
Why do you think these boobs vote against their own self interest every November now for 37 years?
This Democratic congress was elected by CITIES.
"My" Confederacy? Well, I have ancestors who fought for the south, but others who fought for the north. Unlike you, I am not willing to hate either side.
Think about geography for a moment: population density--ever heard of that? If you redid your map to show equivalences in population, you would find that the blue states aren't "pockets," but are equal to the red states.
The kind of hatred you express makes you no political ally of mine--though I am a leftist and have been for fifty years. (Not only that, but I live half time in one of the bluest of blue locations, New York City).
If people with attitudes like yours ever get into power, we'll have as bad a leadership as we have now. Not worse, but only because it couldn't get worse.
Hatred like that coming from your words should have no place in America. Our great national tragedy is that it has.
(1) Kentucky was never in the confederacy.
(2) Did you really mean to say, heaven forfend, that most of Helen Chenoweth is still alive? ("Her neck was broken and died immediately.")
My point: You write as carefully as you think.
One last example.
THEY take your anal retentive humorless politically correct crap and change the nature of politics with it.
Heres the EXAMPLE.
Femenazi. They took that word describing Molly Yard doing just the kind of pc crap you are doing and succeeded so well, they got it into the dictionaries!
Wake up you little nobs, the whole political swing to the Right was because of just this very thing you are doing.
And put down that snake and go see a dentist...
RJ
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